and i have as proof all ms3d file for my ships.

TFK-Killermatrix

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Guys calm down... You are all "stealing" the IP of the owners of B5, so give it a rest...

Also please keep it in English and keep the language straight... I know perfectly well how to read and speak German, so no need to "hide" the flaming in here.

The question is if somebody stole somebody elses work - and if it is only a conversion of somebody entirely else - then I can't see how that gives new rights to the converter. Anyway...

TNG gives so much more and the B5 ship mod is great for the B5 fans only. Already we have had well over 2000 downloads, so even locking this one up does not really bring anything.

If you feel they have solid evidence that another party stole your work - tell me... in a mail!

For now this thread is locked...

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ähhh...dieshalb un desterwegen...naja
btw: mein FL funzt nur noch mit TNG (really weird..) du hast nich zufällig ne ahnung warum?

have a nice day, then...

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Edited by - blaXXer on 26-08-2003 23:29:35

TFK have send me list of his new ships a month ago. So I think it is his own work in this package. On the other hand, the TNG members may have designed their own with the simmilar look and names.
I think that restrictions like comments closing was made because the discusion there reached the ground level, without giving prove to statements.

I hope people will have sure prove about the case when telling something bad about the others on public.

Stealing is a hard word here, all material released to the public without a proper copyright notice can be treated like free to use otherwise. Originall source should be of cause mentioned.

Tygrys


Edited by - Tygrys on 28-08-2003 11:01:36

what is this means: mein FL funzt nur noch mit TNG (really weird..) du hast nich zufällig ne ahnung warum?

I still don't see how can tfk break into someone's house and steal the 3d models. TNG haven't release the 3d models yet so how can tfk steal. All Babylon 5 ships have the same names. Same with Star Wars ship names.

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blaXXer:
mein FL funzt nur noch mit TNG (really weird..) du hast nich zufällig ne ahnung warum?

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this means:
my FL is only working with the TNG mod WTF???

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Edited by - blaXXer on 29-08-2003 15:10:38

Let me get this straight just so I can understand, I thought that when a modder places his ship mod on this site for people to download he was saying that im giving these ships out for anybody to use just put a credit to me in your mod.
As I understood it that is all that is required to use somebody elses ships, if I am wrong please inform me as I had descided also to use some Babylon 5 ships in a new mod and wouldnt want to get on anybody,s wrong side.

Ok....

I've had Direct contact with Reynen, and he says that TFK stole the ships from TNG.

Also, the ships from TFK AND the ships from TNG have the same Time Stamp...

Now, anyway:

Blaxxer: Normal FL funktioniert nicht wegen den TNG Saved games. Du musst die saved games loeschen die in My Documents\My Gams\Freelancer\Singleplayer drinne sind.

Du kannst sie auch raus cutten und sie spaeter wieder rein tun wenn du wieder weiter TNg spielen willst.



I'm your Helping Hand

Kendo_THM
X-Lancer Project Leader
TNG Public Liason

@Hawklord: nope, that's not the case. usually a modder includes a readme where he states if they can be included without asking. anyways it would be polite to ask the modder before including, even if he states that you don't need to do that.

It should be the same with conversions from mods for other games. Usually the guy who converts them asks the original creator, and they give HIM the OK to do it and release it. so if anyone includes a converted file without asking the original creator AND the converter, i'd say its "theft" too (because converting isn't easy either).

The problem is that it's just to easy to copy/steal files from other mods. That btw. is exactly the reason why we haven't released anything for FL yet. I just don't want to see my T-Bolt or any other ship in someone elses mod, without being able to do anything about it.

RubberEagle
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Edited by - RubberEagle on 30-08-2003 19:04:55

Hey, this is a game.
All mods (at least mine) are for fun. If someone takes them to his work, more people will have fun so it is ok. I know that modding or modelling is a hard work, but I also have fun making it. If someone doesn't like pepole taking his work it is also ok (he, as the author has the right to do that). But if someone sends models to the public without a copyright notice nor a readme with "please credit me in case...", other people may take this work and do whatever they like with it. Of casuse, they should ask. Of cause, they should credit. But you shouldn't call that 'stealing'. Nobody makes profit with it. This is lack of culture, not the crime.
Just my point of view.

Tygrys