guns that eject spent cartridges: possible?

Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:41 pm by Deth bird

if any has ever played Starlancer, they willl remember those awesome 'Gattling Plasma cannons' that ejected spent cartridges, i was wondering if this could be incorporated into Freelancer somehow, it would be quite a challenge, but amazing if acheived! it would involve looking into Starlancer files and creating most of the effects ourselves, but first i need to find out whether its possible, anyone want to try?

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:04 pm by Tapewormlord

well i dont know if they can be ejected right when there shot but it might be possible to have some auto-jettison feature. You would have to make the ammo appear as a commodity.

I doubt it would work but you never know. It would have to be a non-homing missle or sumthin with little shot delay.

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:09 pm by Junkman2003

This isn't a flame. But why would you want to do that anyway? The guns are all energy based weapons so you wouldn't have cartriges.

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:13 pm by Siddious

which is why the guns he's thinkin about would be like slug throwers.

which would be pretty cool.

but think about even these energy weapons. there could be a type of a cartridge that acts like a battery that needs to be ejected in order to insert a new cartridge to fire.

could be worth looking into

Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:11 pm by Tapewormlord

If any of you have ever played Earth & Beyond then you will no that there were projectile and beam weapons. The projectiles could be all sorts of dif. weapons too.

There could be a rail gun in Freelancer which could be quite powerful.

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:12 pm by Junkman2003

Gottcha.

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:34 pm by Manic

Well, Sig Arms is working on a cartidgeless bullet already(think bottle rocket, similar concept)... I don't see why they wouldn't have that in the future.

Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:55 pm by Glitch

Yes but I believe the topic starter doesn't care about that, he just wants to play with the effect. Besides, look at Mechwarrior 4, the guns eject cartridges there too!

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Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:24 pm by IAmMarauder

And the ironic thing wit Mechwarrior 4 is that most of the weapons use caseless ammunition (I'm a long, long time Battletech/Mechwarrior fan). Of course there is a PPC that uses disposable circuitry, and it ejects that circuitry after each shot...

Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:14 am by LordDrow

Actually, I was thinking of something along those lines myself. Possibly a custom weapon model that has an associated animation set for use during firing? Just as a suggestion.

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Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:55 am by 666heretic

do you know how slow bullets would be in space like that?

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Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:58 am by Tapewormlord

well maybe not bullets but some projectile. Or each bullet could have a little engine.

Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:22 am by Wanderer

How do you do the custom animations? As far as i know, that would require messing with the ale files and i haven't about any breakthroughs in decoding them. Although i might as well wish for a converter that can do custom turrets while i'm about it.

Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:23 am by Manic

Actually, in theory, a bullet(so long as it didn't use a combustion-based firing agent, hydrogen/oxygen mix, or even h-fuel, would suffice) would carry the same speed as when it left the barrel, and as I am about to reveal...
extracted from http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/F5B.HTM
"The M14 is a US automatic rifle developed in the 1950s to replace the Garand. It takes a 7.62 mm round from a 20-round box. It has a muzzle velocity of 853 meters-per-second and is sighted to 915m with a cyclic rate of 750 rounds-per-minute."
If the M14, an outdated US rifle, which is already surpassed by four models(the latest being the M4 tactical rifle)... you think the muzzle velocity would be HIGHER than those energy guns. My idea is this... a machine gun. Complete with ammunition. and would go much further. My suggestion for counterbalance is that the shield damage be absolutely minimal(shields were designed to take large rocks flying at you, why shouldn't they stop bullets), but should have above-average damage to the hull. Well above average.

Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:42 am by maimer1

as soon as a bullet gets into a pressurised section of the ship ur toast

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