I just looted Small Train Turret

Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:13 pm by FadeOut

I "discovered" that it is possible to loot small train turrets. Is it the general knowledge?
While shooting this hidden wreck in Hokkaido, the one with trade line parts.
Hidden wrecks are realising loot after the first shot, but I used to shoot them some more, till they explode (some of them will explode, I mean). Now, when this Train exploded I immediately tapped "tractor everything", not really expecting anything to happen. And, to my supprise, I looted myself Small Train Turret. It can be mounted at any weapon slot, both as turrel or as the main weapon and when unmonted it takes up 50 units of cargo hold (so you must fly a frighter with empty cargohold when trying to loot one). Maybe, if I was in the Dromadery at that time, I could get larger turrets too...
I'm not running any mods, but I installed unoficial patch 1.4 so, at the very least, it can be some unintentional feature of it.
Maybe I'm making fool of myself as it is hard to belive that you can finfd out something new in the game this old but I cannot find anything about it here.

Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:30 pm by H.Q. Victor

I belive they are part of the "Loot" as well as other unusable weps, diamond Back and so forth.

Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:38 pm by FadeOut

Well, but they are usable. You can mount it at any weapon slot, since they seams dont have the class. And shoot with them too. It looks really strange, turret almost as big as half of the ship (I am flying this Bretonian frighter, however it is spelld)

Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:06 pm by breslin

Oh my god FadeOut, this is an awesome find! I've got to try this out! I'll let you know if I can reproduce this. Wow, it's just super cool. Big congrats for a really neat discovery!

Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:35 pm by breslin

I tried to retrieve a turret from the James Morrell and was unable to do so. I shot at the transport itself, and got its hull all the way down with no effect. (The cargo dropped, but that's it.) Then I focused gunfire on the turrets, but they blew up shortly after being released from the freighter. I tried again focusing fire on the turrets themselves, but this didn't work either. I tried a few more times, and noticed that sometimes it's destroyable and sometimes it's invulnerable.

Could you please give more specific directions for looting the turret?

Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:13 pm by FadeOut

Not sure, for me this wreck exploded when I shot down the hull. I know that some wrecks will not explode, whatever you do, but other will go. Do you agree?
Anyway, when this things go off, there is a brief moment when unlootable turrets are flying in space, and after the second or so they will blow up. I just tapped "B" - "tractor everything" at this moment. When turrets where still intact.

I've tried it on the wreck in Dublin system, on the Train in minefield around the Molly base. It worked too. And this time, I was able to loot the two of them. (I had completly empty cargohold)
There is the possibility, that it is Patch's 1.4 thing, since it has tinkered with wrecks- paralyser missiles are enabled in it.

Apart from that, were You flying frighter with empty cargohold? As I has told, turret takes up 50 units of space, so You need a place to tractor it in.

Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:15 pm by breslin

Yes, it's probably a behavior newly produced by the unofficial patch. I'd like to find out for sure, though. Strangely, it's possible to destroy the transport/wreck sometimes, but other times it's invulnerable. I tried this several times with oddly inconsistent results.

I think one of us should try this with the 1.4 patch disabled (or in my case, enabled). I'd like to do it, but I'm in the middle of another major project. It's a neat idea for the backburner, though. Or maybe you'll like to explore this further in the meantime. Anyway, fun stuff, and thanks much for the whole neat idea.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:00 am by FadeOut

First thing, I missplaced the second wreck, it is not in Dublin, I mismatched the minefields. It was Edmund Marshall in Tau-23 , sector F7.
As for the turret, it is not that terribly useful. It does only 81/40 damage and it has crazy projectile speed: 1000m/s, so if combined with other weapons it throws-out the targeting solutions. While its range, 1200 could be useful sometimes, but when unmounted it hogs the cargohold, so i got rid of it eventually. I just keep savefile with it, to ply with it in when i get bored. By the way, it has energy usage 0.
I will try it out in the game without patch, but it will require reinstall of the game, and I am just in the middle of the campagin, (loosly following your advanced walkthrough, by the way) so I will not do it right now.
While I has looted it, I has net worth at 2500 000 and about 50 unmounted weapons (as I intend to get at least one gun of every model available), dunno if it can has to do with anything.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:06 am by breslin

Net worth effects loot drops from everything *except* wrecks. Nevertheless, I tried this again, this time with a high net worth, and got the same results. Looks like one of us is going to have to try it with the patch enabled/disabled. :-)

Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:36 pm by Conzul

In an unpatched game, I have found that any wreck is destructible:

1. Fire at it from close range, reducing its hitpoints to half or a quarter.

2. Fly away about 1000 m. or right about when it dissappears from view.

3. Fly back at it and fire, making sure to hit it's hull. It should blow.

Beware pirates bearing gifts!

Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:33 am by Conzul

Did that work for anyone?

Beware pirates bearing gifts!

Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:47 am by breslin

Thanks for the suggestion about destroying the wreck. I was getting the thing destroyed around 50% of the time; otherwise it would just go all the way down before becoming invulnerable. Never was I able to get the turret.

The going theory seems to be that it's a version difference: only if you're using the unofficial 1.4 patch can you loot Small Train Turrets off (some of) the transport wrecks.

But thanks again for the wreck-destruction technique; I'll give it a shot next time I get a chance.

Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:58 pm by Conzul

It worked for me but I wasn't using the patch. Hope it's helpful. I haven't looted turrets that I know of, though.

Beware pirates bearing gifts!

Edited by - Conzul on 3/29/2007 4:59:14 PM

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